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3rd Conversation

We believe that by creating connection at a human, heart level, we can rebuild not just the patient-clinician relationship, but health care itself — from the inside out.

Health care can be tough on patients, clinicians and the individuals who work in the system.  Clinicians are burning out and leaving practice at alarming rates; depression and suicide are on the rise. Patients often feel left alone to fend for themselves in a complex system.

Enter COVID. Our health care system, and our country, has never seen anything like it. We need empathy and human connection now more than ever.

We think it's time for a new conversation – a 3rd Conversation – that brings patients and clinicians together to connect as humans and  explore  how reinventing the patient-clinician relationship can be a source of power, healing, and fulfillment. Learn more.

3rd Conversation pilots are happening throughout 2018. Interested in hosting your own 3rd Conversation?


A note from the creators of 3rd Conversation: 

We believe the way the health care system has evolved has been disruptive to relationships. We created 3rd Conversation to help engineer the humanity back into health care. 

Now our system is responding to a pandemic that has stressed and strained our system like never before. 


A key feature of 3rd Conversation   has been "Spark events" where clinicians and patients connect and talk openly about working in the system and receiving care. The experience helps build empathy and a deep appreciation for one another's core humanity. For now, our in-person events remain on hold, and interested sites are being placed on a wait list until we know it's safe to reconvene.  

Meanwhile, we designed a virtual event to help people reconnect, process, and become part of the recovery during and after COVID by leaning on human connection as a source of relief. And, we've retooled our Spark events to provide a new virtual experience.


We're here, and we think this is an opportunity to reshape health care into a system that better serves us all. Join us in the 3rd Conversation:



Everything in life that gets fixed starts with relationships. 

Tommy, patient

We both want time, we both want personal connection…. You realize we're not on opposite teams, we are on the same team.

MaryLynn, clinician



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